Really great advise above from mrbond and Lostforwords and from 25 a few pages back, read those posts carefully, several times! You are far too focused on your W right now (gosh, how many times have we said that to you, is it ever going to sink in?), you're spinning. You're in the front car of the roller coaster looking terrified and holding the bar with the grip-of-death. Relax! This is a marathon.

When we say give your W time and space, we don't mean act like that's what you're doing around her and then fret about her every other second of the day. Because guess what, as confused as WAS's are they are MASTERS of reading the LBS and she will see right through your act. If you spend 99% of your posts recounting everything your W says and does, then YOU ARE NOT GROWING. You have to grow and change FIRST, only THEN will you maybe see your W thaw a little.

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I suggested the idea of the cell phone to her couple of weeks ago but she shut it down.


How old is your D?

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She also said she will give me her new number so I can talk to my daughter.


Problem solved!

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I know she's getting advice and guildiance from her family, friends and OM regarding our issues.


And for what reason does that matter?

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I don't need to contact my daughter on a line she primarily got for OM.


Don't be silly. A phone is nothing more than a communication device.


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57