When I finally moved on from my first M I knew it was time. I have not gotten there yet. When I moved on from w1 it felt like the door was shut tight and there was nothing else that could be done.
With my current W, I don't know that I will ever get to that similar place. I still believe there is a small chance that things will work out. I believe that if I a keep a connection alive, at some point w may come around. But circumstance have to come together that are mostly out of my control. Keeping with it is mostly exhausting and I am not sure how much longer I can keep going before moving on.
Sometimes I wonder if I will give up before w slams the door shut in my face. At some point I may get bolder and force her hand.
For now I keep plugging away. And I continue to work on me
Me-45 W-44 T-7 years M-3 years (4th anniversary July 13, but we're separated) Kids from previous relationships (s14 d16 mine, s23, s24 hers)