You do see that the two of you are in a horrendous vicious cycle of hurting each other, right?

I feel sympathy for you, because I can't imagine what it must feel like to be constantly rejected that way. I also feel sympathy for her, because there was clearly a reason she felt she needed to reject you in that way. Do you know what it is? Did your W not feel emotionally safe in your R? #s 1 and 2 above are HUGE. My H almost always invalidated my feelings . . . it went a long way toward my feeling emotionally unsafe and withholding sex.

Have you done any 180s on the things you listed? Are there other things your W or you have identified as things you could stand to change about yourself?

What do you mean when you say you don't know how long you can tolerate this? If you decided you weren't going to tolerate it anymore, what would you do differently?


me: 44 XH: 42
M 11 years
D10 and S8
Bomb drop 9/27/13
D final 7/1/14