Rebel without a clue

[prometheus]

That's HER problem. You haven't done anything to provoke her right? She CHOOSES to feel irritated.

Apart from still being there you mean? I have not been the happiest to be around but that *has* been changing slowly.
I wish i had a higher level of self esteem. Your comments have highlighted for me how passive i am being, and i think that my low self esteem has a lot to do with that. I *am* a passive person but i can see that it is not serving me well here.

THAT is the bigger issue. Why on earth would your own D say that to you? Did you do something? How was your relationship to them before all this happened? She has to start learning that she can't disrespect you.

I don't know what i did. This stuff is hard. D likes to cast me as the villain because i don't cave into her demands like W does (she calls herself the cave in queen). I stopped trying to convince my wife not to undermine me like that a long time ago. I can't force anyone to do anything. I make my position clear, but what else can i do? I can't make demands or ultimatums. I wish i had some better insight into our(Daughter and me) poor relationship. We used to have a much better one when she was younger. All my attempts to make things better have been met with varying degrees of opposition. I have not given up hope though. Maybe when she gets a little older.

Once you leave, your W will never let you back. That's pretty much a given.

That is something that i have considered. Would it be the end of the world? Other people here are working on their M whilst being separated. Besides, both our names are on the lease so w could not really stop me moving back if i chose to.

My thinking in this is to give her space where i am not there. The problems of the world can't be blamed on me that way. I am very conflicted over this. I have paid $500 deposit for a room in a lovely house just down the road. I am supposed to be moving there today. Problems. I have not told my wife of kids. I don't think i want to go. I suppose that might turn out to be a $500 lesson.