Yes I have read why they run - it was one of the first threads I read and it was really really helpful - that was a few weeks ago so I think I will re-read it for further clarification..... Lois - I can only imagine the heartbreak - I know we all understand that part of it- I wasn't trying to sound as if I was unique in all of this - far from it!!!! I guess I am going through a raw/rough patch. Is we all know some days are better than other s- some moments of the day are better than others. So _ i have been thinking about what more I could have done - you are right. Nothing. I am human , like we all are BUT I do realise that this is far beyond anything I could have wanted, caused etc etc..... I was thinking today about our life before I met WAP. I was single, strong, had worked on my self - was happy in our life.....I want to find that again. I will re-read the post now Lois - thanks for reminding me... I x