Lois - do you have any info re links to the issue of OW on this site? Any further reading, even in the archives? Wow - I do find it hard to believe that I am stronger than he is. I feel far more broken than he is (or seems to be). That said I am still ingesting the enormity of the role of depression here...... I think it is harder with men in depression because their defence mechanisms in a lot of cases are so well refined and sophisticated. WAP is a prime example of someone who could hide emotional turbulence. His level of disconnect of emotion is very refined. Lats night I was stronger and was in full belief of what their relationship is built on - lies, lies, lies. As someone posted recently, how can it be true love if it is built on other peoples pain and suffering.