Originally Posted By: kenva
I'm curious what any of u guys would think if I started off the conversation with this isn't what I want but if divorce is what you want then let it be and to also ask if this is what she really wants.


I think that's OK except I'd remove the part about asking her what she really wants. Just assume D is what she really wants and phrase it accordingly. She WILL tell you if it's not what she wants.

Originally Posted By: kenva
I told her that her nephew called me last night and invited me to his bday dinner tonight. She looked at me and said , " he called you? There's gotta be something !!" I stopped her and said to her he invited me so you do your thing and ill do mine there. She was implying that her family should be off limits. Well her family loves me and they still think she's in the wrong.


Oh boy. There's so much that can potentially go wrong there. First of all, her family WILL side with her, if not now then later. I've seen it happen over and over again starting with my own sitch. It doesn't matter how much they like you or how "wrong" they may think she is, family bonds always trump everything else eventually. Second, it sounds like your W doesn't want you there, so if you go it's not going to earn any points with her, in fact it may make her angry. Third, everyone is going to want to talk to you about your sitch and you do not want to discuss it with mutual friends/ family because your W will perceive it as you gathering the troops against her.


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57