Thanks folks. My older daughter is very good at handling Voldy and will say such things as above. I've heard her say on the phone "I don't feel the need to discuss this any further so I'm hanging up now". Often we just ignore Voldy's "it's all about me" rants cuz we know afterwards she'll feel like crap for having acted that way. But I've always told the kids that if they want to discuss things with their mother they should wait till she's cooled off otherwise it's like trying to pull a bone out of the mouth of a dog, the more you pull the more they'll fight you. Voldy is good at arguing and fighting and guilting...she was raised that way. In fact, she's somewhat of a bully. She was upset with daughter on Saturday night so she kept calling her to get another shot in. "you made me angry and nw yo're gonna pay for it". Yes, maybe D16 needs to say "this is how your actions made me feel" Voldy can get way too caught up in her own world and at those times will forget how others might be feeling. It's certainly a narcissistic trait she owns. She's a real piece of work!
