An End/Beginning of Year Update

[MrBond]

"My comment had nothing to do with Rape, or sexual obligation, or pain during sex, or vaginal dryness, or female orgasm or male sexual selfishness, or cults or any of the other nonsense you guys are writing about."

I think you need to go back and re-read what people commented to you. You were just being rude AGAIN. The fact is that YOU asked for clarification why people thought your post was offensive and then they were honest and opened to you, then you dismiss what THEY think and call it "nonsense". You don't seem to get it that it's how the other person perceives what you said. It's not nonsense. That's they're POV which they have a right to as much as you do.

Pretty rude.

[ssmguy]

You are inferring things into my comment that were never stated, or implied. I suggest you re-read it for context and intent, because these statements are way off base.
Wow..........

I accept that your statement was not well-worded and that your intent was not as many would see it from your wording. I hope you're not arguing that you stand by that paragraph and you'd use it again at a dinner party, etc. Just for your sake, you won't win many friends that way! Your problem, not mine.

[ssmguy]

Having sex can't be as bad as smashing your thumb with a hammer, so refusing to do it at all, when you're capable of it, is something I just can't understand.

I don't want to misunderstand you, so I have to assume you're not including women who are struggling with the aftermath of abuse or rape, or who have difficulty with vaginismus or a host of other problems? What exactly do you mean by "capable of"? If it means the ability to be aroused for comfortable sex, etc., you're almost excluding it only to women who are more or less in a good relationship with you in the first place, making it a tautology.

[RockJC]

Mr Bond, I think you, SSM and Earl Gray owe me an apology. You ignored what I actually said, misrepresented my words and made some very disparaging remarks about me. Specifically:

1) I am “Stunningly superficial”
2) My writing is “Almost embarrassing to read”
3) I should be worried about losing custody of my kids because I condone “Rape”
4) I am a “Cave painter” and “Knuckle Dragger”
5) I believe I am entitled to sex from my Wife
6) That I am sexually inadequate
7) That I only care about my satisfaction and have no respect for woman
8) That I belong to a cult
9) That I trivialize sex and believe a woman should just lie back and take it
10) That I see no difference between a wife and a hooker
11) That I think there is something mentally wrong with a woman who doesn’t want sex
12) That I show “Astounding ignorance” regarding woman
And on and on……

I am sorry if you think I am being “Rude”. I am not going to dignify these insults with an explanation. I will make it very clear:

NONE OF THESE COMMENTS REFLECT WHAT I BELIEVE, OR WHAT I SAID.

I cannot control what you perceive if your perception is %100 inaccurate. If you ask for clarification on what I believe, what I stated or what my intent is, then I will provide you clarification. I think Accuracy provided a very clear explanation.

You are correct, you have a right to your POV. You can misinterpret what I said, and come to as many ridiculous conclusions as you want. I don’t need to respond to them.

[MrBond]

"Mr Bond, I think you, SSM and Earl Gray owe me an apology. "

I don't think so. You asked for thoughts as to why people thought what you said was offensive and people answered. You can't attack people for expressing what you asked for. You expressed your opinion, they are expressing theirs.

For my part, I didn't have name calling or whatever in my posts to you. And the most personal thing I asked was if you expected your Ds to follow the same expectations as you do with your W. It boils down to the idea that many times the situations are much more complex than you initially stated.

IMHO you have a tendency to overreact to things and either attack or retaliate if you think you're being attacked. Like I mentioned how your relating Hitler to a WAS was way off base AND offensive. You can't throw out a name like Hitler and expect not to offend people.

So no, I don't owe you an apology.

[ssmguy]

This isn't a legal case with arguments. Your 12 points have some merit in a literal sense, but you have also taken many of those out of context and reworded them, and you surely must know better what was intended with those comments. Just as I realize you meant must have meant better with your comment about women just lying back. My only point was that it SOUNDED bad, and would SEEM to show ignorance. Maybe you're just not a wordsmith. But, as you would say, it is a fact, and it is that simple, that the statement you made would be roundly criticized by almost any group of women.

You're a bit of an injustice collector and perfectionist. I have yet to see you admit to anything except that you are always right, and that that's a fact, and it's that simple.

I find it interesting how you say someone has a right to their POV, but you seem to suggest that you have the FACTS, and others only have a POV.

I will admit that what I have written above may be both unfair an inaccurate.

[ssmguy]

I mean to add... I will admit that what I have written above may be unfair and inaccurate. I merely have a POV. We all await your reply, RockJC, the only one in solid possession of FACTS, as opposed to mere POVs.

[RockJC]

I NEVER compared Hitler to a WAS. This is another example of you totally misunderstanding my point and coming to a ridiculous conclusion.

[MrBond]

"According to your logic, Hitler was justified in the holocaust, because from his perspective it was justified.

Would you say to a concentration camp survivor that technically they can't say that the holocaust was "unjustified" because they disagree with Hitler? Would you tell them "It all depends on an individuals perceptions" and Hitlers perception is just as valid as theirs?"

You made the correlation and name dropped Hitler. Not me. I didn't even mention Hitler. All I said was that WAS's have a right to their own perspectives and to them its justified.

Just like on here. We are all entitled to our own POV just as you are. But for some reason you argue against our opinions. Neither your or our OPINIONS are absolute truths. Just two sides of the same coin.

[RockJC]

Yes, I used the word "Hitler" in my post. But, I never made a correlation with a WAS. You did that all on your own. The conclusions you came to, had nothing to do with what I posted.