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Thank you again, Ellie. Have a great weekend!


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Hello Ellie

I'm just looking for some quick advice over on my thread, about how to respond to an email my H sent me... Nobody seems to be around....

I know that telling him I would talk to him tomorrow was a good thing, as he was pushing my buttons over the phone. The rule of sitting on something at least 24 hours instead of instantly reacting is very good advice to follow. Sometimes we read things into what someone says becuase we are getting wound up, which may not even be there when we re read things in a calmer moment.

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LNL - I'll take a peek.

Everybody else - I'll be gone for a week - snowboarding spring break with the family
Don't anybody do anything rash while I'm gone!

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Hi Ellie

Hope you're having a great time. Spring has sprung in my neck of the woods and the flowers are out everywhere.

Thanks for your visit to my thread. I am not totally convinced I could carry out your suggestion. I am torn between staying with my gut feeling and doing a complete 180. By the time you read this, I will have chosen one or other way, go see the full report!

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Have fun, Ellie!!!


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Sounds like fun Ellie. I'm jealous!

See you when you get back!


Um, Who?? Us??? Do something rash??? No way.


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just wanted to stop by ellie and tell you to have a great time, but to also thank you for your wise words on my thread about the whole anniversary thing!

glad to be back let me tell you!!!

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Hi all!
Well, I'm back. Had a pretty good vacation, although D struggled with her anorexia more than I would have hoped during the week. I managed to finish a couple of really good books that are helping me understand this illness better - unfortunately, they also help me understand how misguided much of current therapy for anorexia really is.

I was riding pretty well, and quite pleased with myself, until I took a spectacular fall the last day out. Went flying and landed on my right chest. At first I thought I was going to have to call ski patrol to get me down the mountain, but I managed to get up and ride (gingerly!) down by myself.

I didn't think I cracked any ribs, thought more that I had probably briefly dislocated a couple at the costochondral joint. Now, after a couple of days of pain and a few Vicodin, I'm starting to think cracked ribs are a possibility - darn this hurts!!!!

So no making me laugh today, okay?

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Ellie -

I have no good jokes anyway, so no making you laugh! I am glad you had a pretty good vacation even with your D and the ribs. Heck, I'd take a vacation with an injury over no vacation at all right now!

That is great you are reading up on helping your daughter. It's hard to believe that by now we don't have great treatments available.


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It's hard to believe that by now we don't have great treatments available.





Well, blame Freud.
The problem is that so much attention has been directed towards finding psychological explanations for what is largely a biological disease, that often the treatment just makes it worse by focusing on finding an "explanation' for why the sufferer got sick. I just read the saddest book, Slim to None, based on the posthumously published journals of an anorexic treated in the 80's. Her therapists kept blaming the family, accused her of having an Oedipal complex because her dad was loving and caring and had a good R with her, eventually convinced her that she must have been abused, so she went through all her old photos and memeories trying to figure out who "might" have done it (even years later in her journals she didn't really believe anything ever happened, but she made stuff up to make her therapist happy).

All of this nonsense separated her from her true support structure, her family. It worsened her dperession and kept her from getting the practical, behavioral help she needed to deal with the compulsive aspects of her disease.

Interestingly, the treatment of OCD and BDD (Body Dysmorphic Disorder), which are both closely related to anorexia, doesn't dwell on this stuff. But I think there is a large entrenched establishment in the treatment of eating disorders which is just very hard to turn around.

Ellie

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