Absolutely 2old, that is what hurt so much, the lack of any lead up issues. No fighting, no "your wrong" talks, no nothing. But then again, my W is in an affair, so everything I have discussed over the 14 months went out the window. Exactly the same as so many other LBS's, except mine went same-sex. I agree somewhat with the 'detest' attitude, along with 'guilt'.
ME:51 W:46 M:25 S:22, S:20 Divorced 16/9/15 BD 10/12 W left 12/12 with OW, affair confirmed Nov/12. Dark since 6/13 I"m in a new relationship since Feb 14.