Thanks for your reply. MC was 5 years ago and 7 years ago. Issues were lack of time together and lack of connection. They told us to go out more. Despite asking she didn't agree to more than 3 or 4 nights a year. I felt pushed away. I am sure I withdrew. She also started sleeping on the couch abt 10 months ago due to some back hip and leg pain. I tried to encourage her back to bed. She never came back before moving out. She runs I persist. So I am learning to back off. I also wear my heart on my sleeve. I told a friend about how bad I felt and what was happening and she knows that. It was not done maliciously. Brow I feel awful. Gotta keep moving forward. I have read db Dr and sec starved marriage. I left her my copy of Dr when she left. Now I know that was a useless thing to do. I am not going to call attention to that by asking for it back. The 4 C were courteous confident consistent and I forget the forth one at the moment. I think it was conscise maybe....have to check. Seems like shes drifting farther away. People tell.me to just giveup especially since ive been saying I had my doubts about the marriage over the years. I want to divorce this marriage. Not my wife. Make sense? I just wanted change and now that ive spoken io about it. She bolted and I feel like I couldvr done this differently.