thanks for the information patientman. another thing i noticed while reading all these forums.....i don't see a lot of 'success' stories of people getting back together. I completely understand that most of this process is to fix me and if it fixes my marriage as well, then that is a bonus.

Am i the only one wondering if I myself should try/hope that my marriage works out? Am i the only one wondering if we would both be better off being separated? Is my mere thinking these thoughts proof that we shouldn't be together?

I would really like a two or three part answer that would solve all my problems smile


me 41 w43
married 20 years
BD 10/10/13 ILYBNILWY....
4 kids, 21,18,8,6