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Julie, this sounds awful and I am sorry your H is being like this. As far as the controlling part goes, I don't think that you have to sign up for his brand of crazy. I am guessing that you know very well at this point what controlling behavior is and what it isn't. So just do your best based on what you think is reasonable. That said, I would suggest nothing to him. Ever. My DB coach told me to do the same. For example, we have tickets to a sporting event coming up next weekend. My coach told me not to suggest what we do with them or whether he is going or I am going or we are going together, but just make it more like a PSA: "by the way, we have tickets to the (team) game on Sunday." And let him lead the discussion. Not sure if that helps you or not - your H seems to be looking for things to be mad about and I wonder if that has to do with his guilt over the OW. (Oops, mind reading. Sorry.) smile

Yes, use DBing for you. I haven't quite figured out how to detach yet, but I think that I am verrrryyy slowly becoming more detached, so I think maybe it just takes time. I imagine your H being mean and rude to you might speed up the process a bit, though.


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Hey Julie, when's your next meeting?


Me 57/H 58
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Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do.
I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
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Wed. I was a nervous wreck sneaking. I can't handle that more than once a week.


Me 44 H 42
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Ss 20 16
S11 (special needs)

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10/13 EA/PA confirmed but denied
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Do what you gotta do, but get to a meeting when you can.

What would happen if he found out? Have you thought through that scenario. You told me he hasn't been violent. What's the worst outcome?

Maybe you could share about your feelings of fear when coming to a meeting.


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I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
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Hey Julie, thinking about you. I agree with labug, what would happen if he found out?

Do you feel better after attending the meetings? Is it worth the risk for you?


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OW: 11/2013
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I didn't necessarily feel better but I could see the possibility of feeling better. I am planning on going tonight. I will mention my concerns.

I really don't know what would happen if he knew. He couldn't get any more done with M. I have been working so hard to avoid his hostility I don't want to invite it. I am DBing for me and kids.

I am going to say 2 very undetached and unevolved things that I just want to get out of my head.

1. Now that my head has cleared I look back and see how much I have changed and lost myself. Yes he is doing the WAS/addict script where EVERYTHING is my fault. I will own quite a bit of bad. I am lazy and don't like housework. I can complain too mych. I created a life that revolved around raising a special child and shut a lot out including H. However I also think a lot of who I became was a result of not knowing how to deal with H. I took the bait everytime he wanted a fight. I felt like I was living with a child and became controlling. So it makes me so mad that those are the top two complaints and that after I put up with HE decides he found something bettet and is leaving ME.

2. Sometimes I wonder if maybe H isn't really an alcoholic and I have exaggerated things so I can have an excuse for those things I don't like about myself.


Me 44 H 42
M 10 T 12 (at time of BD)
Ss 20 16
S11 (special needs)

BD 9/13 H "unhappy for years" moves to seperate bedroom
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There's a book called the Dilemma of the Alcoholic Marriage, see if you're local AlAnon has a lending library or look in the used book stores.

It will make you feel more sane.

Both of your thoughts above are common with people in your situation.

((( )))


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your not you're


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I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
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I really get your #2. I could have said exactly the same:

2. Sometimes I wonder if maybe H isn't really VERBALLY ABUSIVE TO ME and I have exaggerated things so I can have an excuse for those things I don't like about myself.

When you don't trust your judgment, run some things by objective people. If they think your H is an alcoholic, you're probably not exaggerating.

Whether or not your H is really an alcoholic, you still need to deal with the things you don't like about yourself.

Always pay close attention to bug; she's very wise.


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6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out
9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50
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And it doesn't even matter if he's an "alcoholic" that's his.

Is your life affected by his drinking? If you answer yes, that's where your work begins and ends.


Me 57/H 58
M36 S 2.5yrs R 12/13

Let me give up the need to know why things happen as they do.
I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
Caroline Myss
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