...or are trying to convince themselves that's the truth because they are so hurt.
Yes, this. I remember reading in a thread a bit ago, I think it was NTXDad who said that LBSs sometimes don't realize just how awful/hurt the WAS felt in the M. That they may try to write off the WAS's feelings in some way (I think he said mental illness, but I think that lying, script, selfish probably also apply), and that that kind of complacency probably contributed to the breakdown of the M in the fist place.
I try to keep this in mind . . . I think it's important. It just goes along with taking the responsibility and changing the things about myself that need changing.
F, sorry to hijack your thread with this convo . . . but I think it's worth having and a good reminder for all of us that we need to be listening to our Ss, even if they seem to be crazy.
me: 44 XH: 42 M 11 years D10 and S8 Bomb drop 9/27/13 D final 7/1/14