T,

You could also just decide to let the kids make the present themselves. Make a drawing, cut a nice stick, do some clay or something like that.

I totally agree with you and LTH on the kids-only talk (Bill and boys as somebody said in here)

F

Me:44 W:43
D7, D5 (S11 from other R)

T: 8y - not M
ILYB: 8. Mar 2013
W moved: 1. Aug 2013
LRT: 20. Aug 2013
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