I'm also glad MLC hasn't killed you or made you nuts Nero! I am cautiously feeling that, by giving more free rein to your old optimistic, positive self, you're sounding happier and more at peace. 

That is the real Nero. Reeling in pain from dealing with MLC may be our current reality, but it need not change our inner man. Inner woman? The choice is bitter or better, and we both choose -ta da - better! smile

"that litany of her little "true-isms" that shaped us....i'll get "there" one of these days- whereever the heck "there" is. i do like proverbs and sure hope i'm "doin onto others", etc."

That is the crux of it all. If we can apply just this one proverb and "do unto others" then we will have lived our lives well. It's how we'd like to be treated too, works both ways. But we don't have much control over that. Except to maybe walk away, or in your case, hang up, when it gets too painful. 

But I think we can apply "do unto others" to boundaries, which are supposed to be to protect ourselves. I would want to know if something I was doing was ripping out H's heart, and would appreciate being informed of it, so I could stop. But I guess they do not. Neither appreciate being informed of our pain, nor do they intend to stop that hurtful action. The big A, the former elephant in the room. Oh well. 

Say, are your halloween decorations all put away, and every nook and cranny full of gourds and indian corn in preparation for Thanksgiving? Just picturing the magic of it in my mind smile

I'm proud of you too that you are still standing and still sane. And hope to be considered one of those friends smile


Linda

Me 65, Ex 64
M 38 y
2 adult S, 4 G-Kids
MLC 11/07
BD 12/09
D 3/14
Dating nice guy 7/14
Engaged to nice guy 12/17