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She never said leave me alone. From time to time she won't answer a text message. That is typically the signal I take to back off


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Its a tough situation, to say the least. She hasn't been shy in telling you she doesn't feel that way for you anymore, contact has been less and less. I guess as this point, what have you got to lose? Heck I dunno.

She knows how you feel, does telling her again really change anything? Like I said, I don't envy your position. I'm very curious what 25 is gonna say. 7-8 contacts in 9 months is not much. I'm guessing here, again, but I read a stat somewhere here that 2nd marriages don't last or don't work like 75-80% of the time due to the person(s) not really addressing the issues that got the first marriage in trouble, they just moved on. You both seem to fall into that category a bit, but maybe it more her than you that has issues not addressed yet too. It doesn't sound like her communication skills got any better either.

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I had to google it, its 70%. What does that mean? Nothing of course, but I think your being very hard on yourself is all im saying, this might be about how she addressed her changes, or lack there of. You've still got her pretty high on the pedestal.

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Yup ... and third marriages have even lower success than second ones. I am part of that equation and so is w. All I can do is change me in that respect. And I would still like to save my current m if possible. I still believe it is possible


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2nd - so are you ready to move on? You never said if you thought this weird separation was a cheeseless tunnel. You started dating a little, your W wanted to sleep with you. I'll be honest: if my W had come over and brought up the emotional connection stuff, I'd have said, "Oh, well, take your pants off, I'll deal with the emotions later." Considering you've barely spoken since, I dunno what it would have hurt unless it would've stopped your detaching process?

What do you think?

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There was a 6 week period in which w and I had dinner every two weeks. Last time was three weeks ago. The sex thing came up on the middle meeting. ... It felt like a setback at the time, but the next meeting went well. If there is a next time (sex comes up) I will probably say the emotions are not a problem.

We have barely spoken on a JonF scale the entire time we have been separated. You're sitch is on warp drive and I am in a canoe.

Over the past 8 to 9 months things have gotten slightly better. But not much has changed in the last few.

Maybe I have a cheeseless tunnel. I am trying to think of something different to do without giving up.


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Warp speed just makes the crash more spectacular. Slow, steady, real changes win the race no matter if your M is reconciled or not.


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I will never know and constant wondering is constant suffering.
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I have to agree with labug - even I am starting to put on the brakes in my situation.

But as fast and ridiculous as my sitch is moving; I still have to ask, are you in a cheeseless tunnel after 7 months?

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I am sure I am doing some "more of the same behavior". I will try to think of something different that I can do. I think I am faced with doing a little bit of pursuing.. In a loving and non pressure way ... If that is possible


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So after 7 days of no can't act I decided to send my w a text.

I had a lot of positive responses from w when sending her random memory texts back in May and June.

Background: w and I took a class together at the college I where I currently teach about 4 years ago.

Me: parked by our old (class name) classroom today... Walking thru quad today I remembered sitting out there with u and eating the meals you used to bring... Very sweet of u


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