I know communicating via internet is difficult to get a good read and to know someone, but reading your reply gives me the sense that it's all about you now and that you relish that you think you are in total control of this now, and that she can only start to come back if she jumps through all of your hoops. If you did say some of those things to her, it reeks of passive aggressiveness, in my humble opinion.

Look, I know she's no angel, but how did y'all get here? I suspect your W isn't a floozie that went out looking for a quick hook up. She's got some serious issues with you to get to this point.

I'm not sure my point is valid but it feels like you are thinking "ah ha, she IS the one that screwed this up, I knew it, she's the crazy one, she better shape up or I won't take her back"

Obviously some of that is a piece of this puzzle, but you need to look at how she was so hurt, that she felt driven to move out with kids, and take on this huge undertaking. Getting to where she is now was not easy for her and took a lot of courage on her part. She must have felt desperation to make these dramatic, costly, uncomfortable moves. She didn't put you through this to have a fling. She was hurt, and badly. You've even mentioned depression. Is she depressed because of something in her past before you? Or is she depressed because she felt unloved, controlled, emotionally abused, and not an equal to Jon? The real answer is probably some of both.


Me: 43
W: 37
Together: 18
M: 15
D: 8 yrs old
ILYBNILWY: March 2011
She Filed for D: August 2011
She moved out: Sept 1, 2011
Reconciled: May 2012
Divorce Case dropped: July 2012