Thanks all. I do think the false hope thing might come up. Truthfully at first h said it so often, at home and at mc, that he didnt want to raise any expectation or give me hope, and i did always still harbor secret hope back then anyway. I tried not to let on, but even in my disapproval and anger he could probably tell how desperately i wanted our family to stay together.
Now i feel he would be flattering himself too much if he thought deigning to eat a meal out would give me false hope. I'm not seeing anything impressive coming from his direction, so he doesn't need to worry that i'll fall for him.
I do hope eventually for the kids sake that he'll settle down and learn to be comfortable around them if not me.
I have heard a few stories of separations of a year or more that were reconciled. That looks so impossibly hard from this vantage point. I think my 15yo would not like h to come back. I dont know about my 13yo. It feels like we are too far gone to ever get better. I'm just going to keep living my life and see where it takes me.
Adinva 51, S20, S18 M24 total 6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out 9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50 5/8/17-now: New relationship with an old friend __ Happiness is a warm puppy.