Had an interesting convo with D16 last night. She is really wise beyond her years, it amazes me sometimes that she's only 16. First she gave me some background info on OM that I didn't know. I knew he moved to NY with his W and that she left him, that he came back to TX w/o her and that's when my W stepped in to "help him through his difficult time" and thus the EA started. What I didn't know is that his W moved back here and shacked up with his brother! I also didn't know that his W got the house in their D, that he was living in it at the time and when he moved out he trashed the place to get back at his W. Classy! I told D16 I don't understand why he's involved with W (my W that is), and she said "I know, he has no future with mom." As I think I've said before, he's 20 years younger and loves kids but doesn't have any, and W's child-bearing years are behind her at this point. D16 then said "I think he has self-esteem issues." LOL! I didn't even know she knew what that meant, but I'm sure she's right. Then she said "Mom is crazy, and she knows she's crazy. She actually has a name for her crazy self as if it's another person, she calls her Cleopatra." She went on to say that W talks about "Cleopatra" in the third person, for example D16 was complaining about something W had done and W said "I know that seemed strange to you, but Cleopatra was here that day, not me." Interesting that W is recognizing this other side of herself in such an obvious way.

D16 also said that she updated the firmware on her phone and somehow ended up with W's text convos on her phone, it was apparently some kind of glitch (their phones are on the same account). She said she ended up with a lot of W's convos with OM and that she looked through them and it was all pretty standard stuff, like 2 friends talking versus lovers.

It was an interesting convo, and ironic considering how I was just talking about how the girls don't ever want to talk about the sitch. D16 really opened up a LOT about it. D16 kept saying she thinks W will come out of it and be her normal self again some day, and that she wants me to wait for her. I told her I'm giving her as much time as I can, but I can't stop the D if W keeps pushing it through.

Originally Posted By: 2ndtimearoundCA
Thanks for the recipe AS! smile


No problem, but I did learn that they are best when eaten fresh out of the oven, I ate some the next morning and they were a lot more chewy/ stringy. They were delicious when warm and fresh though!


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57