Originally Posted By: JonF
@AS - thanks for being gentle with me. smile


LOL! Well you've gotten pretty good at 2x4'ing yourself, so I didn't feel the need wink

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Only thing that sticks in my mind is that S5 told me he went bowling with his friend Michael the other day - turns out he did no such thing, he was completely lying. So, I guess there is SOME possibility he's not being truthful


The thing that struck me odd was your W's mild reaction to it:

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He said, "Oh yeah, because EA does that now." W just said, "Don't be gross, S5".


Let me ask you this, if you had never kissed another woman and S5 said to your W while you were there "daddy has been kissing a lady" how would you react? If it were me I would say something like "WHAT??? S5, you KNOW that is NOT true! Why would you say that?" I mean you'd want to set the record straight right away, right? But what did your W say? Don't be gross. That sounds to me like "sure it happened, but we don't talk about things like that in front of daddy." That to me was more telling than what S5 said.

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I feel like I'm able to clearly articulate a boundary now that is for ME, and not just in reaction to W.


The boundaries are reasonable even if OM is just a friend, so your W's denial of an A is no reason to back down from the boundaries. Your W has totally been cake-eating, that's why I mentioned that she needs tough love, because she WILL try to go right back to cake-eating, only you can stop that.


Me: 60 w/ S18, D24, D27

M: 21 years; BD: 06-14-12; S: 09-10-12; D final: 03-17-14; XW:57