I could not find a audio of db, so Michele suggested "Keeping the Love Alive" so I ordered that today. I found a counselor tht is in a convenient location for both of us, but she is on vacation, so I will have to wait for a return call. I read db book and now want to hear the keeping the love alive, but when I get them I will give them to the ex, maybe with me reading the bd book and him with the keeping alive tape we could figure out where and what to work on first.
"the ability to deceive others is only mastered by much practice on ourselves."