It does make sense that for some of the "talkers" verbalizing with a safe listener is their way of moving through some of the early stages, regardless of the outcome. It's so hard to listen to spew without reacting in the beginning! There's something to be said for listening without giving advice or as you said helping them figure it out. Most of us make that mistake at first, even with dbing. We want to help them. That was the hardest concept for me to get through my head and it took me a long time to see why.
It's funny that the trashier ow1 lasted longer than the less trashy ow2. Then his need to reconnect with your boys and even wanting to get to know his future in laws sounds like a small step in the right direction for him. If ow2 is gone in 1/2 the time that ow1 was he may be slowly figuring it out all by his little self now!
Bea, neither of those women or any woman that could follow have anywhere near the class, intellect and patience that you have. Your xh was/is a fool and it might be that one day you'll hear those words from his mouth.
Me:57H:62 M:34T:35 2S,2D (grown nlah) BD:09/2012 visits M ow EA/PA?:10/2012 H moves out 06/2013
"Do not let the behavior of others destroy your inner peace." -Dalai Lama
