Originally Posted By: Ambivalent
Everything we have offered has been shot down or reasoned away.

That is the nature of a problem that has existed for so long, and for which I've tried things for years. Lots and lots of things have been tried. Doing something again just because somebody else thinks of a suggestion doesn't make it new in OUR relationship. So I think that's a sensible reason for "shooting down" a suggestion. Otherwise, it's the definition of insanity.