Dj, are you coming here for help, or just to vent? If you are coming for help, listen to the folks who are trying to help you. If it's to vent, find a different place.

Originally Posted By: djhartm
You guys are really distorted when you arrive at a point that you honestly believe kissing your wife is tantamount to molestation.


A piece of paper doesn't give you the right to exert your will on another. While it doesn't sound bad, kissing your wife, her resisting and you forcing, certainly does.


Originally Posted By: djhartm
You heap so much self-guilt on yourselves that I guarantee you, no woman would want such a feeble, self-doubting man so devoid of self-confidence and direction.


Really? You think it's self guilt? Or do you think we're all at fault and those of us who have taken the time to see our faults are in the wrong?


Originally Posted By: djhartm
The effect of my actions were realized by significantly more contact from my wife yesterday evening which I find very positive.


Yes, clearly you do...because everything you have stated says physical contact is your LL, and you'll push as far as you can to get it. But what is your W's LL?

Here's a hint...it's not physical contact.


M:44 W:42
M:15
S:19, D:16, S:14, D:12, S:6
BD: 2/14/11
D Final: 6/25/13