"In eastern culture, you are to be happy with your marriage regardless of wether it makes you happy."

Yes and if you don't, then you get killed or ostracized. So your happiness is based on fear. And let's get one thing straight. It's not "Eastern" culture. It's only in some. I don't think you realize how messed up this sounds.

"A couple of days ago, my parents (who had no prior souses or even sexual relationships) celebrated their 41st wedding anniversary. My wifes mom is in gwr second marriage (to her AP) aand her dad never remarried. her mon was sexually abused by her step dad. My father in law never remarried. He has 7 brothers and sisters and from 8 siblings only two marriages are still going. A couple of his siblings have been married twice and have blended families, put those kids through all that trauma only to divorce later. Baggage baggage baggage...."

Seriously? These issues are based on the individuals. Not "society". That's what makes your post so disturbing. You keep making these generalities. You're saying that no one in eastern culture has ever left their marriages or been unhappy. Those "eastern" cultures also have a high rate of sexual abuse and domestic violence and suppression of human rights more than any other places in the world. Do the research. Sounds like a happy society to me.

" We all need to fight to save this society from the inevitable collapse (if things continue this way) of marriages."

Society isn't going to collapse because of M's failing.

"Do you agree with any of my views? Is it a coincidence who is in an affair and who is trying to save the marriage? "

By your definition, only those in "other" countries hold M's to be sacred. This is an insult to everyone on here (a vast majority who are western, I might add) who believe in a good marriage. We are not on here to be selfish as you claim those in our society are.

That's what gets you into trouble with the posters. You generalize everything and try to make it sound so simple. When in reality, everyone (including your W) has free will to do what they want. Would you blame a woman who is beaten by her H to leave if society said that no matter what she may not leave him? Would you blame a father for wanting to leave a W who is alcoholic and beating their child?

You can't make generalities like that. It's the same reason why your search for the "magic bullet" has not been successful.


M-43 W-40
2D - 9 and 5

Emotion, yet peace.
Ignorance, yet knowledge.
Passion, yet serenity.
Chaos, yet harmony.
Death, yet a new life.

RECONCILED AND WISER