Figuring out the old and new life

[ForeverYoung]

Thanks so much T2. As usual, your points make a lot of sense.

Hi FY,

Cadet said that your W seems to be a "low energy" mlc'er, which means it may take longer for her to reach that "bottom"...

A few vets have told me that some don't need to "Crash and Burn" to make the turnaround.

Per your previous posts, I think she knows, FY...she knows. And she is probably scared that you will give up (though she will NEVER admit it).

She loves the song "I will wait for you" and turns it up and sings to it when it comes on the radio. (WTF?) Next time, would it be bad if I asked her what the song meant to her? Probably.

Thing is, if you push too hard, give the ultimatum of presenting D papers, etc... she may just say "he's done, why try?" (very sage advice given to me btw when I was highly frustrated).

I'm not considering presenting D papers, just poke the bear a little and try to get in her head. ...Keep in mind that I'm convinced there's not much I could do that would send her packing. She likes it here with things as they are. I don't.

Something to consider, is there a way you can really detach more? Can you really get down deep and mentally start "moving on" without physically doing so, because time is on your side, right? No hurries? I bet she can still "feel" your "waiting" attachment.

Sure, but then I get back to the "Tell me why are we M, again?" thing. Even so, it seems this is what I'll have to do.

I get where you are at...I just want this thing jumping to the next quantum level... have her say to me:

-I want to stay married to you
-I see the possibility of a new and good to great R with you
-I am sorry for what you went through
-Now let's make like rabbits!

Doesn't seem too hard from this side, does it? Let's just get moving forward, babe!

Thanks for the clear outline. Now I have something to present to W while we are in the car!

you're awesome FY, and know that should things not work out, you will be alone only as long as you choose,
T^2

Hey, is that a proposition? Because you know, you're pretty awesome yourself, man...