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Do I just have my expectations set too high at this point?


It isn't over until it is over, and we also get to decide on that one. I do not know about all MLCers, some sort themselves out and make things OK, many seem to want to sweep it all under the carpet.

It depends on you. After nearly 8 years, I am comfortable alone, and have no wish to spend time with a person who cannot even begin to address what they have done.

I get that it is painful for them, and I also get that it appears unless we accept them warts and all, we may not get a chance at marriage restoration.

I thought it all through, and then I thought 'I'll pass'.

Bu that is where I am now and my particular MLCer. If you want continued contact I would say, don't call him on this. As long as we don't do this, they seem to relate more and more to us.

Personally I have no regrets at having told my xh like it is, but I was clear that I am not really interested in rebuilding a relationsihp.

If you are interested in re-building a relationship with him then I would simply reply nicely . . . . He sounds LOT saner than my xh.