Originally Posted By: sandi2
"W is less invested right now than she was 1-2 weeks ago"

Why do you think she is less invested? B/c you haven't had sex with her?

"For our date on Sunday, she will be at the very end of her period, may or may not still have earache. Is it worth giving affection and being knocked back than to hold back just in case it isn't the right time?"

When you use the word "affection", what exactly do you mean? When you say it may not be the right time, that makes me wonder if "affection" to you means having sex. To me, affection can be any positive touch (as LTH gave examples). If you start with something that isn't putting a lot of pressure on the outcome of the date, then there shouldn't be a large concern about being knocked down. For example, when the two of you start to enter or leave some place, touch the small of her back as you walk beside her. If you can sit close to her, then do it. Touch her arm, stroke her hair, take your finger and outline the shape of her mouth, sit with one arm over her back/shoulder, lean in to whisper something in her ear, etc. But I suggest you don't start out by reaching for the more intimate areas of her body. Those areas need to be left alone until a later time when you see how things go, at the very least...the first date. You won't be ignoring her if you do these other type of touches. When a M couple stop having these non-sexual touches, that.is the beginning of trouble. I think most women need these type of touches. Start with the less complex firs


She comes across less invested because she isn't pursuing me as much as she was. I think even though the other day wasn't a bust it just added more to the "this isn't going to be easy" pile.

I have kept away from pretty much all affection because I thought it would have been pursuing and too early.

I see affection pretty much how you described it. Never really thought about it much before. They are things I would like to do but I don't think of them naturally.

I will add some affection from now on.

When I pick the kids up on Friday I will probably only see her for 5-10 minutes. How should I be? Its basically a co-parenting situation but with someone I intend on getting more affectionate with when on a date on Sunday.

Ask how she is, keep it light and maybe a kiss on the cheek when I leave?
Feels too much now I've typed it out.


M36 W31
S4 S2
T5 M4
BD Jan12 S July12
Recon Sep12-Nov12
ILBINILWY Jan13
OM x 2 in 2013
W wants R July 13
I start D. Jan 14.
Meet GF Nov 13
Have I changed enough? Jul 14

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