Hey Thumpered, I have been following your story and i feel for you. I truly hope you can save your marriage!! I have been posting my story here in hopes of having success and then being able to help others after having that success. My methods are a bit different from what others are doing here. I believe in 98% of the methods talked about here but I also believe it is possible to be proactive. Here are some thoughts

1. Work on you for you or any future relationship will never work.
2. Begging, pleading, and using logic will never convince our waw's of anything.
3. Keep doing what works and stop doing what doesn't work
4. Following our emotions will usually be counterproductive
5. Try new things and if they don't work stop, but if they do work, keep doing them; it's a trial and error process.
6. Learn as much as possible about the psychology of attraction. Our waw's are no longer attracted to us and it is a good idea to understand why. You can use this information as you make changes to you for you.


Me-45
W-44
T-7 years
M-3 years (4th anniversary July 13, but we're separated)
Kids from previous relationships (s14 d16 mine, s23, s24 hers)