I was waiting for a "Corri" take on all of this. Thanks. I agree with everything, although we have been the counseling route and I didn't think it was particularly helpful. I generally have a high opinion of counseling, but this one was very passive, and I think she needed to be more involved. Basically she just told us that we had a lot on our plate, and that stress is a big libido killer, and that I needed to be patient, etc. So I've been patient. And I think my W just figured that I was accepting the whole situation, had given up, and that life would be cool and sexless. Today I shattered that illusion. It's going to be either a very quiet or a very noisy weekend at my place.