Originally Posted By: DaddyLongShanks
ssmguy,

It's not all women who are like this, just a certain grouping of woman who are this way. I'm seeing on some of the other marriage boards ladies talking about loving to please their man, and it's gotten better for 20 plus years. She needs and wants it as bad as he does. You cannot blame all women for what your going through.


I get where SSMGUY is coming from. And it really does not matter to him (or me) that all women are not that way, because we are not in relationships with "all women." We are told either implicitly or explicitly to just turn off our sexuality and our desire to be intimate in some way beyond just conversational.

Note: the fact that sexual issues become off-limit for discussion means that intimate conversation can only be engaged upon for certain subjects.

Ultimately, the choice comes down to one of three choices; 1)give up on any sexual intimacy with the woman we are married to, 2)find sexual partners outside the marriage, or 3) end the marriage and maybe find a willing partner. What we know is nothing that we've been able to ask for, threaten, or cajole has been effective in providing any progress.

The Captain


Last sex: 04/06/1997
Last attempt: 11/11/1997
W Issues "No Means No" Declaration: 11/11/1997
W chooses to terminate sex 05/1998
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