Well, obviously I'm no expert here but sounds like something I would try if I had the opportunity to. You might know better than most what he would say about doing this with your family right? I guess I am figuring out there are no right answers when having to deal with WAS. Yes, detaching or going no contact is one answer but, then there comes the times when contact is initiated by WAS and you either ignore or you respond. Cadet is correct that since I quit initiating, W has decided to contact even though it was for something she wanted. BUt then again, she did provide me with her new phone number unexpectedly. I have also found that one can have a MLC at any age or at least symptoms similiar to MLC. The threads I have been reading indicate most WAS could fall into this category also. So trying180, in my humble opinion if you feel asking H to a family outing might have some results then maybe you should do it. The only real thing that could happen is he says no and you start again with no contact. Again, there are no real doggone answers unless you are using this stuff to completely detach and move on...I think thats what this is all about.