Your right trying, it doesn't go away. I'm finding that even though your feelings subside for a bit it doesn't last. And when they show up again it's like when and how will all this end. What will be the final outcome when all is said and done. It's a an ugly process that you are forced to live and with. Even with GAL, PMV you still have to go through the process. I'm realizing as I read through these threads that most all have things in common but, they all have thier own set of circumstances. I think the most difficult thing is trying to seperate what you dont know from what you do know. In my sitch, I cannot help but to wonder if things would be easier if her and I were speaking. This is the way I think that one can actually find where things really are. I know my WAS does care but to not talk with me for almost 3 months now? It's said that if you are talking with your S and they show hatred towards you that in reality they actually still have love for you. So trying to figure out what it means to have your S care about you but not speak with you means something but what? No, I'm not obsessing here. Just trying to find answers so that eventually you can react appropiatly if or when that time actually comes. Knowledge is power, power is knowledge. For some reason this makes sense to me in order to deal with your sitch. Or Am I wrong?