He's right about that. Despite my current sitch, I once did this DB thing right for a while... but the biggest mistake I made pre-DB the first time was to involve my W's father in discussing our problems. It was devistating to effort and caused problems between them. He was absent most of her life, and she felt he was not on her side. This has been brought up again by W in current sitch, so it was definately not forgotten about. I also ended up getting my mom too involved. Best to keep family and friends at a distance - if it must be discussed, i am going with "we're working on some issues" or something like that.