But some of us tried to tell you this sort of stuff would come from her. Remember you asking for some signs or examples to look for? I gave you the one where she'll try to set you up for sex. You immediately thought that hercoming on to you would not happen b/c of how mad she was and threatening to get a lawyer to proceed with a D. Yet, you actually believe she eas reaching out to you? This came what......24 or 48 hours after she was giving you grief over seeing you babies?

What is you idea of her reaching out to you? What would be the goal? I hope LTH will come back and help me explain the terrible truth about a WAW. She lays it out there, hoping you will start dealing out of a realistic mindset who is no longer blinded by the ways of the WAW'S.

In the meantime, let me throw this out there. In the future when you get messages from her, do not automatically think she's reaching out to you. The only reason she would reach out now would be to b1tch at you more. And that is not what you need to listen to. You sure don't need to take a chance of getting lured back into that unhealthy situation again.

Frankly, you need to emotionally detach from her with the phone messages from her, set up a time to talk to the kids, but don't get into any R talks. You were told to keep it about the kids. Continue to keep it about the kids. When she starts to see her fantasy castle fall down, and she sees you have grown and getting better, but she will use her old techniques of control. If you won't take her bait, and tell her if she is serious about it, she will help from a doctor, therapist, someone who knows how to get her standing on two healthy legs with a very stable mind.

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It is not about what you feel should work in your M. It is about doing the work that gets the right results. Do what works!