Originally Posted By: Crazyville
C, I'm going to go against the tide just for a minute and give one ounce of credence to what your mother said to you. She said your W is being lazy. I don't want to play semantics with you, but from an outside perspective, I can see that, too. Your mother simply isn't the person that you can hear it from. If 25 said it, you'd be much more receptive.

I'd simply ask you what the D decree says about p/u and drop-off? I'd be very surprised if it puts the entire burden on one person. More likely, it says one does p/u, the other does d/o, or that both parties meet at a central location. If that's what it says, why aren't you doing that? You have a history of bending over backwards, sideways and every other direction imaginable in order to not rock the boat with your exW, or you pad it with the excuse that it's "what you want," it's "better for S," etc.

If you were to tell your exW that your current arrangement isn't working well for you anymore, and asked her if she could pick up some of the slack, such as meet at a central location or assume p/u or d/o per the D decree, would she agree to do so without complaint or criticism?

If she wouldn't, then what is your explanation since it isn't laziness?
If she would, then why aren't you doing just that? You are still making this too easy for her. You are still providing her all the benefits of a H without any of the investment. You've heard the saying, "Why buy the cow when the milk is free?"

You might consider reading "No More Mr. Nice Guy" if you have time. It's not what you probably think based upon the title.


I think Crazyville raises great points. i do not think its your mom's place to say what she said in the PAST, to your in laws---sssooo NOT helpful, just a mother spewing at the parents of the "bad guy".
Why didn't she call your w herself? Maybe b/c your mom wanted to shame your w, & maybe pressure her to come crawling home...i am a mother and i have been tempted to make a call to the parents of a woman my son almost married. I would have, at MOST, suggested anger mgt training for her, i would have known Not to disparage her. (In my son's case, i had actual concerns about the woman's emotional stability).

NOW, its just totally not helpful for her to raise issues -to you, partly BECAUSE of her past.

Sure, If your mom never criticized her before, yes i think it would be different.

Anyhow, as was asked, what's the divorce agreement SAY about pick ups?


M: 57 H: 60
M: 35 yrs
S30,D28,D19
H off to Alaska 2006
Recon 7/07- 8/08
*2016*
X = "ALASKA 2.0"
GROUND HOG DAY
I File D 10/16
OW
DIV 2/26/2018
X marries OW 5/2016

= CLOSURE 4 ME
Embrace the Change