Yes, I don't think it is about us. They are just not seeing things clearly. I too wish he would wake up and see what he is missing. I don't understand how you can be with someone for so many years and think everything is fine, and then have a bomb drop and your whole world come crashing down. I just kept thinking, this cannot be happening, I must be dreaming, because he would NEVER say these things to me!
M: 8 yrs T:14 Twins:7 S:5 BD:'NLILWY': Feb/2013 Mar/Apr/May: MC June: "living in limbo" Sept 12: H moves out Oct 20: reconciling Jan-Feb 2014:MC Feb 2014: separating, and H moved out.