Me: I'd like to do more than just closed mouth kisses
Her: But I love our closed mouth kisses, we haven't kissed like that in a long time
Me: It wasn't that long ago Her: And then you'll put your little lizard tongue in there (referring to her dislike of how I kiss)
OUCH!! LOL! OK, well I'm told I'm an amazing kisser, I don't say that to boast but to explain why they then want to tell me all their war stories about bad kissing. It seems that most guys think great kissing is trying to ram their tongue down the woman's throat or check their molars out with it or flop their tongue around like a fish just pulled out of the water, but most women want a much more tender and gentle approach. Many women are absolutely repulsed by a bad kisser. Some will just tell bad kissers that they hate kissing (even though they don't) just so they can avoid having to suffer it again. The flip side of that is women find great kissing to be incredibly erotic, so mastering kissing can open the door to making an amazing connection with someone. Anyway, if your W says she wants closed mouth kissing, then go with that for now. Master that before trying open-mouthed kissing again. Communicate with her, ask her what she likes and doesn't like about your kissing. Then try to follow through on that, and ask her if you're doing better. She'll no doubt be flattered that you're asking because it shows her that you're listening to her and that you genuinely care about her desires.