Don't you dare say you hope you're not offending anyone pouring your heart out on your own thread Dawn Marie, don't you dare. You are hurting -- this man you loved beyond reason has as you said put "someone else between us, I think I'm so infuriated at that one act, that I am willing to WAW from him totally. Sometimes I wish he slept around for a few months and never created an emotional tie, that bond is soo dependent, and deep that I believe it's deeper than w ever experienced being M. I actually think he likes EA more than he ever liked me, if only she wasn't an alcoholic, bi polar, scitsilfranact, he takes the time to see the person behind all that, and he says there's a good person there."

Maybe there IS a good person behind his crazy alkie OW, but that doesn't mean his bond with her is stronger or deeper than the bond you had. The deepness of it is all in his mind, crazy, mixed up MLC made-up lies.

Nero is right -- there is absolutely no reason any of us should be able to understand what is going on in either our own minds or in our MLCer's minds.

"Honestly- can't we just give ourselves permission to not know one darn thing about us or them or the sitch???"

Yes we CAN. I give myself permission right now. If you can't give yourself permission, how about this -- Nero and I give YOU permission too.