Just had phone discussion with XW....difficult, tearful on both sides.....she said despite the good she sees in me when we are together we have an "unhealthy" relationship. Makes me wonder what she considers "unhealthy".

I spoke my feelings.

I did get emotional. Sorry.

She did the same.

She said "do you think this is what I wanted for myself at 40??". I said no, and it's not what I want for myself either - but I can't change it.

She repeated that we "did our best". I said we needed to do it with the help of a counselor. She said we'd seen counselors before.

Honestly, I am emotionally drained and can barely go into the details. At the end I just said that I miss my son. I probably said some things that I should have, too - not inappropriate, just too much about my feelings about her.

With regard to other people, she said she just wants me to "be happy". That's the kiss of death as far as I see it. If she ever had feelings for me at all they are long gone now.

Crimson