Yes, that's what I meant. And Waiting is right, this is DB101. Don't use backsliding as an excuse to do more backsliding or give up. DBing is about holding your head up, saving your self esteem, and looking like someone a woman might be interested in coming back to. It's about not wallowing in self pity, and pleading, and pushing. It's about really hearing that the other person doesn't WANT to be with you, and taking a step WAAAAAAYYY back and getting on with life, which is the only thing that won't push her farther away. And it will restore your self esteem, and it will give you a chance to become a better person. No downside.
Adinva 51, S20, S18 M24 total 6/15/11-12/1/12 From IDLY to H moving out 9/15/15-3/7/17 From negotiating SA to final D at age 50 5/8/17-now: New relationship with an old friend __ Happiness is a warm puppy.