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stupid question did you ever stupidly say the word "MLC" to your W in the heat.


First, there is no stupid question, unless you don't listen to the answer when given repeatedly...(I am guilty of that).

In my case, never in the heat...but to be fair, I have a psych degree, training and experience a long time ago with a challenging population (teenage males who were SA'd and were SA'ing, ironic, and fortunate, given my W's history).

I do know my W well enough to know when her defenses have had a crack big enough to toss in info and she would be likely to be receptive to it...then I let her run with it (she has a "detective" personality streak like I do).

It was like this for the effects of effexor on relationships and empathy info I found when I noticed the link between her starting effexor and replay/lack of empathy behavior, both times at the start of her phases of mlc tunnel. And several smaller issues, and then the MLC idea.

The advice to NOT suggest it to the spouse is absolutely correct, and if I had when she wasn't "open", it would have fallen on deaf ears and a closed mind.


In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. - Albert Camus

Uncertainty is the very condition which impels people to unfold their powers.-Eric Fromm