"I don't want to talk about the marriage, I am done, my feelings haven't changed about you, I am all done, I just want out"
I heard this many, many times...be okay with it, it is how she's feeling atm. I think we all have heard similar from our mlc/was spouses many times...part of the process
In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. - Albert Camus
Uncertainty is the very condition which impels people to unfold their powers.-Eric Fromm
I get this, it was/is hard for me too, but you MUST learn this skill...it works everywhere, not just in this sitch...my kids love it that I can do this now, they feel so much more "heard"..it is VERY powerful at work...amazing how people will "tell" on themselves/plans/etc, etc when I am STFU and using empathetic listening....
In the depths of winter, I finally learned that within me there lay an invincible summer. - Albert Camus
Uncertainty is the very condition which impels people to unfold their powers.-Eric Fromm
"But essentially I've tried this already . Speaking with her"
You continue to do it with an "expectation". You talk to her, that's your choice. She doesn't want to answer, it's hers. Remember, my W never talked for years until she started opening up. Now we joke around like before. You have to get over that hurdle.
M-43 W-40 2D - 9 and 5
Emotion, yet peace. Ignorance, yet knowledge. Passion, yet serenity. Chaos, yet harmony. Death, yet a new life.