Clear goals and a vision for the future

[ObiWan]

As for separation being needed - I totally believe that if we had tried to just "stick it out, " nothing would change and we would still be doing more of the same. My husband's leaving was the shock it took for me to really get help with what I needed to change in myself. I firmly believe that I am a stronger, wiser, and definitely more independent woman because of what's happened with he and I. He did what he thought was necessary for all three of us (me, S, and himself) to survive. Him leaving stopped the war - it was like a ceasefire. We wouldn't be where we are now if he hadn't left.

well each sitch is different - it didnt take her moving out but it took
1 - first bump - I want a divorce
2 - second bump - infidelity and pregnancy

I've been DB'ing since about 2 weeks after #2

So I was looking for other people's opinion on wether or not a sep was a key ingredient in their dynamic

As for the song, harvey danger - "flagpole sitta" - I think it may have been used in one of the American Pie movies...