ok, just want to say a couple things extra, here...

First... I am sitting here all deer in the headlight for you... and I am having memories of my W saying things like she's lost her passion, that she stopped trusting me... and then planning a weekend outing with the kids and when I tell her I'll meet up with them as soon as I can, saying that if I go, she will not... to telling the kids to not tell what she (they) are doing or where they are going or who they are visiting... and saying that she doesn't want to D or separate and that I don't have to leave but she doesn't want to be with me... and hiding the "only friends" OMs... and then, when I would talk to her (ok, beg, cry, etc) about working on things and R, she'd complain that I was saying "hurtful" things to her...

ok, that was rambling...

Anyhow, what I'm trying to say is, it might be worth while for you to close this topic and start a new one in MLC. Even if your W IS NOT MLC, there's something going on that I think you'll get good support in that forum.

This forum is actually for people who ARE WASs (as opposed to talking about them) anyhow, although that doesn't really matter. Except that... well, there's something not quite WAS about your W, from how I'm seeing it...