golf mom, just reading your thread. I just had the D talk with H. He says he wants to do what the kids needs, Am I just supposed to go to the table at this early stage and say ok because this may be the best I get? Does your H see the boys? I have asked my H to leave us alone for a bit, to give us "space" to process. I thought this might wake him up a bit to what D would look like. He's made no attempt to contact kids.