Okay, I have a moment, and besides, I'm anxious to counterpoint this one a little.

Let's start from your position that the D is just a piece of paper (and we'll ignore for purposes of this discussion the spitirtual idea that a M is a covenant between H, W & God).

If that's all it is, then why is it so important for the WAS to obtain? To evidence the death of the "old M?"

Perhaps, but I would argue that at the bottom of it all is the WAS' need to establish with certainty that they are no longer committed to the LBS or the M.

Maybe it's so they can embark on a new R wih the LBS from a "clean slate." Maybe it's so they can see if the grass is greener too.

Point is, they are NOT committed any longer.

Yes, we may still love them. But, neither should we remain committed to them either. We need to move on as well. We can still DB, sure - but I would state that it would be healthier for the LBS not to SEEK OUT those opportunities - just do it when the WAS pops up.

Zoo, I don't think we disagree here really. My advice to kevin is ultimately the same as yours - keep being a great father but stop being a husband.

Thanks again for your lucid thoughts.

Hud