As real as it is for US to be constantly seething with repressed anger and resentment that's just below the surface of our UPBEAT facades.....our Hs are seething with anger over their guilt as well. They manipulate thier guilt by doing THINGS and saying THINGS that appease us...while all the while, lying in wait...just beyond our sight is the defense/anger demon that they hold tightly by the collar lest they expose their fury and rage at having to feel guilty for what they've done. T2